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10/24/17 01:09 AM
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Did I make someone mad? And here I am thinking Ive been SUCH a good girl!

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Re: hidden text [Re: LadyGrey] #429052
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No, LG, there are problems with certain characters appearing with certain browsers apparently. Contractions seem to be of particular issue. If you avoid them, you can usually avoid the problem. Another fix is to see if you can switch from posting "using UBBCode" to "using HTML and UBB code" at the bottom of your posting box if you have that option available. That box is just above the submit button.

I hope this helps clarify things for you!


When we open to this moment and don't judge it or try to change it, even when we're suffering and wish it were otherwise, we tap into the spaciousness of mind that allows us to move forward skillfully, with discernment and joy. -- Sharon Salzberg
Re: hidden text [Re: Miranda] #429068
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Miranda I think that option is only for moderators


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Re: hidden text [Re: NewEveryDay] #429071
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Is it?? I don't know... Can anyone else see that choice? I can't see it all the time, only sometimes


When we open to this moment and don't judge it or try to change it, even when we're suffering and wish it were otherwise, we tap into the spaciousness of mind that allows us to move forward skillfully, with discernment and joy. -- Sharon Salzberg
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Originally Posted By: LadyGrey
Did I make someone mad?

Only the UBB gods! laugh1 laugh1 laugh1


P.S. I see that the quote button does not work and must be done manually.

I guess UBB does not like me either.......

Re: hidden text [Re: Rich57] #429143
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So strange. I can see it here, but when I'm posting on MY thread in the TD? Can't see it.

And I can sometimes see someone's post to quote it and fix it and sometimes I can't. It's totally bizarre.


When we open to this moment and don't judge it or try to change it, even when we're suffering and wish it were otherwise, we tap into the spaciousness of mind that allows us to move forward skillfully, with discernment and joy. -- Sharon Salzberg
Re: hidden text [Re: Miranda] #429410
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Key is not to freak out. Notify the mods. We can usually hit "quick quote" to make the text appear, and then cut and paste into your post to make the text visible in your post where it belongs.


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Re: hidden text [Re: holdingontoit] #429606
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Are we sure that the hidden text and the warnings about malware are not related?

I admit that I'm still freaked out by these tech issues. More and more reports of hacking by sites and companies that have huge IT departments isn't helping to calm my freak outs.

If anyone wants to share why they are not bothered or freaking out, I might be less bothered, too.

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In addition to the hidden text issue, this evening I was unable to get past the home page at marriageadvocates.com until I switched from my phone to another device.

I even turned off my Wifi (which seems to be the most dependable way for me to reach this site) and used my cell data. Didn't help.

Re: hidden text [Re: LivingWell] #429862
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I cannot explain getting hung up on the home page. Haven't heard of that happening.

Two reasons I'm not freaked out about the Google warning:

1) I know AR and Mark went through everything here, looking for a problem and found none, and

2) I've personally noticed no problems or concerns with any of the devices I use to access the site since that warning appeared.

I am, however, annoyed with Google for not acting on AR's explanation of our investigation efforts, and her request to review their action. We're not big enough or important enough for Google to dignify with a response. (Just one more reason for my distaste for Google.)

Re: hidden text [Re: right here waiting] #429891
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I have accessed MA on both iPhone and Android phone as well as multiple Windows computers from various locations. So far (knock on wood) have not had any problems with any devices acting differently after connecting to MA. So if there is a problem, it is not easy to detect from an end-user perspective.


Solutions? There are none. There are decisions.
Re: hidden text [Re: holdingontoit] #429931
12/07/17 06:29 AM
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I use Windows 10 with the Edge browser on my desktop and Norton, updated and scanned daily. I have never gotten any warning using Edge. Norton has never given a warning on the site, on any page, keeping in mind that I have literally looked at every single page, including storage and other places Google cannot even see.

Norton gives us a green light.
Other site scanners give us a green light.
Only Google seems to be having a problem with the site.

If I switch to Chrome or another browser based protection that links to Google, I get a flag once I access any UBB Threads page. Our base URL, marriageadvocates.com, doesn't get a warning. The warning appears when I access ANY page that uses UBB Threads including pages that Google cannot even see or access to scan because we do not allow access to anyone below the level of BoD .

I use three devices to access the site daily, two Android and one Windows 10. I use another one of each occasionally. All 5 devices get a daily scan. I get flags of tracking cookies from time to time that are most often connected with Google and the way they track you so they can target advertising based on the stuff you click on or shop for online. I have never gotten a flag for our site.

I activated a malware scanner that runs in real time and shuts down the browser and link if any one of over 750 thousand potentially dangerous bits of code are detected. I can browse this site without any issues but actually get booted from one website that supposedly offers protection from viruses and malware the moment the home page loads. My malware program doesn't like the site that claims it is protecting you from malware.

Google's own antivirus software once quarantined itself, or a critical portion of itself, rendering the machines it was one bricks with no way to access through the operating system.

Other small sites have gotten flagged and from what I can determine, only the ones who are willing to pay Google to "fix the problem" get the flag removed unless they instead pay someone else with significant clout to fix it for them.

We have even disabled the non standard and purely custom parts of the site. I have looked at old links, many now going nowhere. I have looked at literally every page of the site at the code level and have found no embedded code or hidden links to code of any kind. The way UBB works means that the only variable on any page is the text that y'all enter to make a post. That gets stored until someone's browser asks for it. The basic page itself is the same on every page. Any changes to any page at an executable level is obvious after looking at the same thing for the 10000th time.

I can assure you that Marriage Advocates has no malicious code, has a blocked list of spammers and hackers that rivals some of the bad guy tracking sites and has even repelled specific attacks without being hacked. We keep zero personal data and make every effort to delete any data that might identify you when any of you accidentally posts it.

We don't have a bunch of data going somewhere else or we'd know about it. We don't have any pages being redirected because we'd know about it. We don't have anyone sneaking in to steal anything because we'd know if they broke in and the only thing they could steal would be the stuff you posted. Even we can't read your password which is why we can reset it but can't tell you what it was when you registered three years ago. We don't even have real names unless you have told us or made donation and we don't process or store that information since it's collected by someone else and we only get told that you did it once they process it.

So, the probability that someone is hacking the site is tiny. That they have installed any redirected links or malware on the site is orders of magnitude smaller. That they were able to get information that you didn't post yourself is smaller still and that anything they could get could be traced to you by even a forensic expert is about the same as cell phones being outlawed world wide while I am posting this. Not"impossible" but really really close...

Could I have missed something? Sure.
Could AR have missed the same thing? Do you KNOW AR? Still, it could happen.
Could Norton be so screwed up that they are unaware of some sneaky malware that Google is aware of? And they still don't know about it?
Could at least a half dozen sites that scan a website to see if it's safe all be missing the same thing for this long?
Could the only database of malicious sites that lists us be Google and the ones that draw their information from Google be the only one that is accurate and all the other ones are wrong?

Could all of the various antivirus and malware scanners, embedded software and hardware protection systems and services used by people visiting the site every day from all over the world all be missing evil code being installed on their machines using at least ten different operating systems, hundreds of ISPs in nearly every time zone on the planet???

Is MA safe?

We're a lot safer than your email because we don't let links in that you can click and end up on a porn site in Russia or Azerbaijan. We don't let people post links that ask for your credit card number or address or other personal information. The list of people who cannot login is bigger than the list of those who can and even logging in only lets you see what we let you see.

As for the vanishing text...

Predates the Google deal. Started after migration to new hardware. Every time we thought we identified the problem it turned out to not be the only variable. There are hundreds of things it could be that we know it's not. Maybe the same or more that we can only test by trial and error. It could turn out to be a combination of factors.

I can tell you ten things it's not off the top of my head.

Beats me... dunno


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Just to add to Mark's post.

I use malware bytes premium edition on my phone and laptop and regularly access MA from both devices. I've only ever had a problem when using google chrome, I use IE on my laptop and Samsung search engine on my phone. I also used safari on my iPad again never with any issues.

So various different types of virus/malware scanners, a forensic search by the MA tech gurus and the only common factor is google chrome who won't look at the problem unless we pay them.....

I'm happy to assume we're safe smile


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Re: hidden text [Re: MaidUpName] #429933
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Mark if you need any help testing the vanishing text I am happy to help. It vanishes whenever I have any words with an apostrophe posting from iPhone.


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Re: hidden text [Re: NewEveryDay] #429962
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Let me try to put together a plan to test some stuff methodically and see if we can find some sort of commonality.

Might be after the holidays.


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The secret to having a good marriage is to understand that marriage must be total, it must be permanent, and it must be equal.-- Frank Pittman
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Sorry to say this but what does GO DADDY say about this problem?

Seems to me that they may be involved.

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As I understand it, GoDaddy is not involved, but we are making progress on resolving it. smile

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UPDATE: After testing a few things it looks like the forum software version we're using is not compatible with the newer version of the PHP programming language installed on the new server so we're looking at upgrading the forum software ASAP which should resolve the problem.

Stay tuned!

Mg


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If you're going through hell, keep going. -- Winston Churchill
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UPDATE: Got the latest version installed on the test server and confirm that the blank posting issue has been resolved in the new version.



Mg


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O wad some Power the giftie gie us To see oursels as ithers see us! -- Robert Burns
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oh you're KIDDING right???

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When we open to this moment and don't judge it or try to change it, even when we're suffering and wish it were otherwise, we tap into the spaciousness of mind that allows us to move forward skillfully, with discernment and joy. -- Sharon Salzberg
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"Grant me the serenity to accept the people I cannot change, the courage to change the one I can, and the wisdom to know that one is me."
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Originally Posted By: mgellan
UPDATE: Got the latest version installed on the test server and confirm that the blank posting issue has been resolved in the new version.



Mg


WOW -You are a tech GURU!!!!!!!

THANKS

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Originally Posted by mgellan
UPDATE: After testing a few things it looks like the forum software version we're using is not compatible with the newer version of the PHP programming language installed on the new server so we're looking at upgrading the forum software ASAP which should resolve the problem.

Stay tuned!

Mg

MISSION COMPLETE??

It looks like we are back up and running, hope all has worked as advertised.....

Re: hidden text [Re: LadyGrey] #431239
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oh my god... what an amazing thing. I'm stunned.

Bravo!


When we open to this moment and don't judge it or try to change it, even when we're suffering and wish it were otherwise, we tap into the spaciousness of mind that allows us to move forward skillfully, with discernment and joy. -- Sharon Salzberg
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