Or grasp of reality. Or web design.

Hahahaha, Jim. I don't know. He's a little "out there" for some, maybe. But I don't think that necessarily means he has no grasp of reality. When it comes to web design, however, I couldn't agree more.

gave up 1/4 of way thru page.

Too much inner child/spiritual enlightenment/zen smoking for me to consider it a valid and informative article.

Is the forum down for anyone else? Or just me?

CONGRATULATIONS, RHW. We have the same D-day but you reached recoverED sooner than us. It actually took my DH's near death experience and subsequent massive apologies to our adult kids for me to realize his level of remorse, which helped me feel recoverED vs. still being in "recovery" after 13-14 years.

Someone is reading this thread today (July 11, 2020) after nearly 10 years so it now RISES UP!

Many of us began posting on MB (MarriageBuilders) forums with mixed results. I haven't even checked their forums lately to see if they're still operating as usual. They changed the title to MB Guidance Forums a while back and banned talk of other options from various other programs, which I totally understand.

I still credit our recovery to the MB program even though we were unable to utilize the entire benefits for a variety of reasons which will remain unnamed because I've forgotten many of them.

Just curious....how has MB affected others 10 years later?

Congratulations again Acey on being recovered, the gift that keeps on giving!

The posters at MB recommended me to Al-Anon family groups soon after I got there. I didn’t save my first marriage but I found an amazing fellowship that saw me through all the trials since then. In addition to being part of the community here I’ve stayed at MB too, and called the MB radio show and got advice shortly before calling it quits the second time.

MB did help me. I was on there for over a year before I discovered the affair that ended my first marriage. There were some good folks there that helped me look at myself. LA, school bus, Cat, NED, someone with the word Jewel in their name?... anyone remember? And SFB, aka Lousy Golpher....I know I am forgetting many. I still think some of the things said about my part was not accurate....but some things were and it made me stop and consider myself. But nothing seemed to help my marriage. I really really tried. I continued to relay to the board my troubles...

Then one day, I believe it was the Queen who shall not be named said, ‘you should put a keylogger on your husbands computer.’. I was convinced he was not cheating because we had a fair amount of marital assets by then and I did not think he would risk having to divide it up with me. I was wrong—within 24 hours I had confirmation of an affair...and within weeks confirmation of a previous affair with my cousin that he was starting up again. I filed for divorce so fast his head spun around. I was done. Just done.

Post separation the board over there started to turn weird. Thankfully I then found MA and again some of the same people helped me navigate divorce and remarriage and blended families and co parenting.

It has been a wild ride. But I am not sure what would have happened if I had not found MB.

Does that forum still exist, and can anyone give an updated review?

Yes the forum is still up and running. They don't seem to have much traffic--so I'm not sure what's going on with that.

I did have a sneak peek after posting this. It wasnt as busy as I remember it, but maybe that means less betrayal?

Betrayal is rampant, as shown by the many postings in other boards. MB became so heavily moderated and some specific participants accusatory of not doing the program the "right" way that many people left or were pushed out.

Hence Marriage Advocates

Is DB still.going? Actually I'll check it out. I cant remember all the other boards anymore

It also seems as though some of the hard-liners have been inactive. Of course, if they see us ramping up...